Skip the drama when addressing wedding invitations #Friends & Family Advice#invitations#tutorial Updated Oct 12 2015 (Posted Apr 24 2008) Ariel findyourafterglow Invitation calligraphy by Etsy seller InspiredCalligraphy I can't handle addressing these wedding invitations. Everyone says I should address it to "Mr. & Mrs. Man's-First-Name Man's-Last-Name" but it pisses me off… …addresses like this completely blow past the female component of a relationship! Any ideas for how to be true-to-self without trying to make an in-your-face statement? -Anonymous I'm not sure what etiquette would advise, but my solution was to skip last names completely on my invites. I addressed them with first names and affectionate titles, ie "Dad & Andrea" (for my father and his girlfriend), "Auntie Cherie & Dave" (for my aunt and her boyfriend), and "Dallas & Erin" (for my married friends who shared a last name). I usually listed whoever I felt like knew better first, i.e. "Susannah & Michael" for my best friend from high school and her husband. Related Post Raiding the button jar: How to make your own wax seal Wax seals lend a hand-made touch to invitations, place cards, and other paper-crafted pieces of a wedding. They’re also a simple but gorgeous way to... Read more Obviously, your mileage may vary with this technique and it's probably not up to any sort of etiquette, but it felt like the simple, straightforward solution to me. I'd love to hear from Offbeat Brides — how did you address YOUR envelopes? Ariel Author of three editions of the Offbeat Bride book and the brand-new From Shitshow To Afterglow, Ariel Meadow Stallings acts as the publisher of all the Offbeat Empire websites. She lives in Seattle with her son, and if she's not reading or writing books, chances are good that she's dancing or happy-crying. To follow her latest work, join join The Afterglow, for exclusive access to essays, videos, online courses, and more. PREVIOUS Vampire rings for the undead love in your life NEXT Kristen's green, eco-friendly wedding Show/Hide comments [ 64 ] This is great advice! I did this on our Save the Dates (and plan to for the invites) and it saved a ton of etiquette stress and it sets a nice tone. Reply I love just using first names, but if you want something more formal you can write: Mr. and Mrs. Chuck and Kate Lastname. If you're concerned about etiquette, I read somewhere that using "Mr. and Mrs." with both first names is completely appropriate. Reply This is what I did too! Reply That's exactly what I did Ariel! I even went so far as to address to 'well known and frequently used' nicknames. Reply I used the nickname approach on our engagement party invites and it actually caused some problems. I had a couple of the invites returned. These were friends who were renting and possibly still had roommates. It that case it apparently can cause confusion at the post office. But, in general I love the casual/fun approach! Reply Must admit- I too am guilty of indulging in first name invites. It has worked perfectly so far (*fingers crossed*!) Reply I also abhor "Mr. and Mrs. Hislastname" I just went with omitting the "Mr. or Mrs." from all of the invites and just went with first and last names. "Steve and Lisa Johnson" or "Paul Brady and Lisa Johnson" It saved a lot of headache for me. Reply I omitted the Mr., Mrs., Ms. titles completely from the invites because I felt that it was a silly thing to do, seeing that I normally never use titles when I send Christmas cards, letters and things like that. ymmv, of course. So, it was just first and last name (in the case of couples, like Ariel, I put the person's name first that I knew better.) There were no complaints and I felt good knowing I didn't do something just because "that's the way it's done", when it didn't make sense to me to do it that way. Reply My wife and I just said, FEH, forget about addressing etiquette. We addressed the invitations in the same way that we always addressed the people receiving them. Or the way that we thought the invitee would most like to be addressed. For example I knew my grandmother would like to be Mrs. First Name Last Name. So I wrote that. For aunts and uncles I wrote Auntie FirstName and Uncle FirstName. Everyone seemed to be happy, or at least we had no complaints 🙂 and it made us VERY happy. Reply Etiquette schmetiquette =-) I wrote mine like this: John & Jane Doe Reply We're doing the same thing and we are even handwriting them. If anything, we will momentarily shake folks out of the societal conditioned trance. It's a great thing! Reply See, that is how I always send out my invitations for everything! My mom always makes fun of me for it so for our wedding invitations I just put everyone's full name, It felt weird addressing my grandma as "Margarita Menchaca" instead of Grandma Marggie. Honestly I don't think I will ever do it again. Reply I think this is yet another one of those things where people feel like there's a special way to do something, because it's for a wedding … which in actuality it's like, "How do you normally address your envelopes? Do it that way." For me, etiquette usually feels like a way to make simple things way, WAY more complicated than they need to be. (hmm: maybe I should write a post about my thoughts on etiquette…) Reply Yes please Ariel! That'd be a great post! I adressed my invitations to First name (woman's usually or who ever I know best) & First name (or guest) Last name. I used people's regular full names, except for a few exceptions (Mike instead of Micheal things like that) just because of the postal service, I dont have great faith in the USPS. Is it considered bad etiquette to use address labels instead of hand adressing them? Reply I did the same as most on here with either just first names or the way I'd write their Christmas cards or whatever. I don't have a huge problem with the "mr. and mrs. his first and last" and I had heard from my sister in law that her mom was demanding she do it…she didn't of course..but when I went to invite her parents, I did do theirs "mr. and mrs. john smith" just because I knew her mom would like it LOL. Sister in law called me the next day to thank me for the wonderful phone call she got about how I was doing things right. She'll only ever see her invite, so I don't care, just did what I knew would make her happy, and it makes me laugh cause she thinks I'm so proper. Reply We haven't sent our invitations yet, just the save the dates, but we are only using Mr. and Mrs. HisFirst HisLast for people we think would prefer that. Otherwise we're doing Mr. and Ms. HisFirst and HerFirst TheirLast or Mr. HisFirst HisLast and Ms. HerFirst HerLast (adjusted for whoever we know better being first), along with at least one Ms. and Ms. HerFirst and HerFirst TheirLast. Reply And if you are going to write a post on etiquette (which sounds cool) do pick up Miss Manners wedding book first. It's awesome in deeply offbeat in many ways. I have that book and your book by my bed. Only worth reading on weddings. Reply Oh, and etiquette, as in Miss Manners (the sane source) says that you always address someone as they wish to be addressed. Which seems really fair. IE, Mrs. Jon Doe for your grandmother if thats what she likes, and Ariel & Dre if that's what y'all want. She also says the womans name always goes first, for whatever that's worth. Reply Second the motion, Meg–I have a huge pet peeve about people hating on etiquette without reading the divine Miss Manners first. She is eminently sane, practical, and feminist (oh yes! Believe it!). Not to mention hilariously witty. 🙂 And she has no love for the wedding industrial complex, either–she has some wonderful snark about the petty questions people ask her, as though it's engraved in stone how to arrange the wedding party in photographs, etc. Reply I just wrote down people's names. No Mr and Mrs. Just John and Jane Doe. It's funny though because when my fiance's mom gave us her list she didn't have any of the ladies names and I asked her for them and told her that there would be no Mr and Mrs stuff happening. She didn't seem to mind – she knows that we aren't having the most traditional wedding ever so no big deal. I highly doubt anyone will even notice or realize that we weren't all professional or traditional or whatever we were supposed to be. 🙂 Reply Oh, and etiquette, as in Miss Manners (the sane source) says that you always address someone as they wish to be addressed. Which seems really fair. Miss Manners and I are in complete agreement on this point. Thanks for the book recommendation, ladies! Reply Hooray! I had a big feminist crisis about this and polled my colleagues for what they did… I wanted to be a little formal but still use everyone's first name, so I did it like this: Mr. John and Mrs. Jane Smith or Mrs. Jane Smith and Mr. John Garcia I also put whoever I knew best first on the list. Reply I agree with what people have been saying about either using only first names or using both first and last name. Like Lauran, I also plan to put the person I know best first, even if (gasp!) that means putting the woman first. I firmly believe that etiquette should not be an excuse for sexism. Plus, most of the time when people say, "this is how it should/must be according to etiquette, they actually have never read an etiquette book, and certainly don't know that different books have different opinions! Reply this is EXACTLY what I did. I even used some people's Burning Man names, like "Wonderboy" and "Captain Hook" Reply I've never been to Burning Man – I didn't know their were Burning Man names. Takes me back to Woodstock (G-D, yes I am that old). Reply Ah yes. Burning Man/playa names. Here's a hilarious discussion about them. Reply Thats funny that you posted that link Ariel. I know most of those people on that thread in real life. Flint's name really is Flint, Ive seen his drivers liscence, he is invited to my wedding too. Reply We skipped the whole Mr and Mrs thing and just went with first and last names too. So much easier that way. Reply I also addressed using first names…and in the past few days I've had three invites returned as a result. But it sounds like others haven't had a problem…so maybe it's just that the mailperson can't handle my incredible handwriting. 🙂 Reply I hate Mr & Mrs Man's Name, too. Even for the parents hosting, If it's Mr. & Mrs. Dad's name, I feel like it's slighting the mothers. I never thought of just using guests' first names on the invitations, but that's a great idea. Reply We couldn't get our stupid label maker on the computer to work, so instead of stressing, we simply hand wrote the addresses using first and last names only, usually putting the female's name first (when I could remember). Only took us about an hour or so. My fiance helped with the addresses & neither of us has the best handwriting, but honestly, who wants to spend hours and hours writing these out with perfect penmanship. Down & Dirty addresses do the same thing as beautiful formal calligraphy in my opinion. Reply Oh Thank GOD! I thought I was a crazy person, because this is how I felt most comfortable addressing the invitations. Alas, I was greeted with strange looks of confusion/scorn. Thank you Thank you! I am glad to see that I'm not the only one!!! Reply I did the same thing! I also got strange looks when I said I wasn't printing up fancy address labels, but rather, addressing them all by hand… Reply I think hand addressed envelopes are warm and personal, much nicer than any fancy address labels. I also believe the most special invitations are those that are written by hand and personally address the invited person. Only possible I imagine at small intimate weddings and ceremonies but a delightful touch. Reply Ariel, Why does my clock say it is 12:54 but the posting time say 11:54? Reply With my sister getting married next year, I thought she'd be the ultimate bridezilla. So far, she's been okay. Your site is providing me with much humor and many tips for her to keep bridezilla at bay! Reply We are also doing firstname lastname, no titles except for the pastor and his wife. Although we didn't actually use titles on the invitation itself either – both our parents wanted to have just their names. And I think it makes total sense – after all, I'm not having a black tie wedding and reception anyway, so why would I go all formal on the envelopes? Reply I plan on addressing the invites based on however I think the recipients would prefer to be addressed, as others have mentioned. One thing I'm considering, for people who I know would find Titles too formal and stuffy, is to write out their full names, including middle names, as in Jessica Susan Robinson. Several of my friends really like their middle names, and when do you get to use your middle name? I figure for people who like their middle names it's an alternative way to mark that it's a special occasion. Of course for people like my dad who use a nickname all the time and dislike their legal first and middle names I'll go with whatever they prefer to be called. Reply I only printed the names on fancy labels because I'm lazy. 🙂 I do agree that it is nicer to have hand written – but by the time I wrote my 80th name down it probably wouldn't be legible anymore. 😉 PS – I used the Willy Wonka font – which I think is warm and personal in it's own way. Capital letters get top hats on them? How awesome is that!? Reply I didnt really use Mr or Mrs…or last names. I addressed them (for the most part) "Jon and Jane". Only if I invited a single person, then I used their first and last name. It seemed the least conventional, so that was my style. Reply I also have a problem with the Mr. & Mrs. formal address. Reducing a woman's entire existence to three minuscule letters seems so misogynistic it makes me want to scream. But your personal opinion of women changing their name should not be used to judge women who have chosen to change their name. Think of all the women who question you or look appalled when you say you either won't change your name or are going to hyphenate it. Do you really want to pass judgment on them the same way they pass judgment on you? Reply It's not about passing judgement on women for changing their name. Generally, women who change their names after marriage only change their surname. Unless they've also changed their first name to their husband's why would their own first name be omitted? Reply I ditched the formality of "Mr. and Mrs." and just used first and last names. To solve the problem of whose name goes first when addressing to a couple, I listed the names alphabetically for guests that I don't know well (i.e. the groom's parents' invitees); for the guests that I did know well, I wrote the name of the person I am closest to first. This felt like the right way to do things for me, and I couldn't care less what the etiquette books say. Reply I did the same thing! I also got strange looks when I said I wasnâ€™t printing up fancy address labels, but rather, addressing them all by handâ€¦ Normally, you'd get eaten for printing address labels. It's considered extremely impolite. I like them because of the sheer terror of my handwriting. Reply ALWAYS write a last name! ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS. Especially if the addressee lives in an urban area or apartment building. Technically, if there is no last name on an envelope, mail carriers are supposed to return them to sender. And trust me, many do. Reply Really? How bizarre. I can't see how it affects the post office: all they need to know is the physical address to deliver it to. The name of the addressee is none of their business and doesn't affect their ability to deliver. Weird rules! Reply To the contrary of many misguided individuals, etiquette is not a stagnated art. It is to be applied in an appropriate manner, where the manner depends on the circumstances. For example, if one were to address a letter to my grandparents in the 'Mr. and Mrs. John R. Doe' format, my grandmother would take no offense. However, when I have received letters addressed in that manner, I am immediately offended and honestly would love to smack the writer in the face. Simply put, it is no more appropriate to offend a 70-year old than it is to offend a 30-year old, particularly where one has every reason to believe that the 30-year old, for example, might be just as offended by the 'Mr. and Mrs. John Doe' format as the 70-year old may be by the 'Jane Doe' format. Further, expense of time and effort is no excuse for addressing all invitations in the same manner. One cannot reasonably say that she is adhering to older etiquette norms so as not to offend older guests, all while callously dismissing the contemporary norms that her younger counterparts find more acceptable. Reply This is a random sort of note, but in an etiquette class I took, the proper way to do it is actually Mrs. and Mr. Smith. The reasoning is that you shouldn't separate the man from his surname. But if you're talking about non-traditional wording anyway, it doesn't matter so much. Reply My dad is doing our invites and envelopes so he is making us do the proper thing. Trufully I did not but oh well.at least our invites are cool.they look like comics Reply We invited plus ones and children so we skipped some drama for a lot of them by using "______ family". "Smith family" seemed easier and more "us" as cliche as it sounds. Reply For my invites – I did Mrs. Jane Doe & Mr. John Doe (intentionally putting the female name first just because, unless the man was a doctor or in the military to which I used that title and put them first). I also did The Smith Family whenever I could. I also have many friends who didn't change their names, so then I did Ms. Jane Smith & Mr. John Doe. I would also caution that I hired a calligrapher for both my Save the Dates and my invites. For my Save the Dates, I gave the person my list exactly like the above and she changed all my envelopes to be "traditional". She assumed I didn't know what I was doing, so all my invites came back Mr. & Mrs. John Smith. For my invites I hired a different calligrapher and explained why this way important to me and I had no problems. So if you do hire someone, don't assume they will follow your list. Reply I wrote "Grandma and Grandad", "Debs and Chris", "Mark and Rosie" etc 🙂 Just whatever name I'd call them if I was in the same room as them! Reply Mannnnn! I wish I saw this earlier on in the year.. I need to subscribe to Offbeat Brides for real! LOL That was my side note, but on the real.. Times have drastically changed since the 1800-1950's and family dynamics have changed drastically. How would it be if I was creating the calligraphy on envelopes for a lesbian family to place Mr. & Mrs? That would be completely offensive in my opinion. I think the idea of just placing the first names and then saying " & family if the entire family is invited is much more courteous. And also times have changed where other adults share households too, so I think sending an invite to all the adults and their families (if they have them) in the household is courteous too. You can also address the envelop to say " The Last Name Family" with the address details ( I think that is also a good option to use when many family members live under one roof or if a family is polygamous. ) Reply Read more comments 1 2 › Join the conversation Cancel ReplyYour email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Sign me up for your offbeat awesomeness newsletter! No-drama comment policy Part of what makes the Offbeat Empire different is our commitment to civil, constructive commenting. 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