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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
		<link>http://offbeatbride.com/2009/08/self-uniting-wedding/comment-page-1#comment-58286</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Molly. I just saw this; hope I&#039;m not getting back to you too late. 
 
Some counties don&#039;t offer the licenses, others will question you about your faith, and still others don&#039;t care. A couple in Allegheny County was questioned about their faith and denied the license; they challenged this in court and the judge granted a restraining order against the court clerk&#039;s office that basically prohibited them from denying the couple the license. The state Supreme Court hasn&#039;t actually ruled on the matter, but the legal arguments are all in your favor should you be denied the license and decide to challenge the clerk&#039;s office. 
 
However, we found it easier to just get our license from a county that will grant them no questions asked. Montgomery and Philadelphia counties are two of those. A Pennsylvania license is good for use in any county, but just to cover our bases anyway, we had ours signed in a friendly county as well. (From what I understand, Bucks County, where Peace Valley Park is, will question people about their faith.) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Molly. I just saw this; hope I&#039;m not getting back to you too late. </p>
<p>Some counties don&#039;t offer the licenses, others will question you about your faith, and still others don&#039;t care. A couple in Allegheny County was questioned about their faith and denied the license; they challenged this in court and the judge granted a restraining order against the court clerk&#039;s office that basically prohibited them from denying the couple the license. The state Supreme Court hasn&#039;t actually ruled on the matter, but the legal arguments are all in your favor should you be denied the license and decide to challenge the clerk&#039;s office. </p>
<p>However, we found it easier to just get our license from a county that will grant them no questions asked. Montgomery and Philadelphia counties are two of those. A Pennsylvania license is good for use in any county, but just to cover our bases anyway, we had ours signed in a friendly county as well. (From what I understand, Bucks County, where Peace Valley Park is, will question people about their faith.)
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		<title>By: Molly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Molly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tracy, 
 
We&#039;re looking in to having a self-uniting marriage in Pennsylvania but are finding a lot of people not willing to say it is &quot;valid&quot; if we aren&#039;t Quakers. Can you advise on your experience? Thanks so much! 
 
Molly </description>
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<p>We&#039;re looking in to having a self-uniting marriage in Pennsylvania but are finding a lot of people not willing to say it is &quot;valid&quot; if we aren&#039;t Quakers. Can you advise on your experience? Thanks so much! </p>
<p>Molly
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
		<link>http://offbeatbride.com/2009/08/self-uniting-wedding/comment-page-1#comment-56071</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, this stuff is going screwy on me. 
&quot;I&#039;m gonna love you, you gonna love me?&quot; 
&quot;Yep.&quot; 
&quot;Great.&quot; 
Then we sent it back in. No muss, no fuss. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, this stuff is going screwy on me.<br />
&quot;I&#039;m gonna love you, you gonna love me?&quot;<br />
&quot;Yep.&quot;<br />
&quot;Great.&quot;<br />
Then we sent it back in. No muss, no fuss.
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, no, the vows weren&#039;t necessary. We just wanted them. Actually, we didn&#039;t have the license that day, so when we DID get it and get to use it (waiting period), we just ran to a couple of people we knew and asked them to sign it for us. I think there was something about the witnesses witnessing a promise/intention/something or other, so we just had fun with it: </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, no, the vows weren&#039;t necessary. We just wanted them. Actually, we didn&#039;t have the license that day, so when we DID get it and get to use it (waiting period), we just ran to a couple of people we knew and asked them to sign it for us. I think there was something about the witnesses witnessing a promise/intention/something or other, so we just had fun with it:
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		<title>By: OffbeatAriel</title>
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		<dc:creator>OffbeatAriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check your state&#039;s marriage license laws, but for most states all that&#039;s legally necessary is signing and submitting the paperwork correctly.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check your state&#039;s marriage license laws, but for most states all that&#039;s legally necessary is signing and submitting the paperwork correctly.
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		<title>By: Amanda Lukow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda Lukow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is going to sound terrible, but were the vows necessary?  I only ask because my fiance and I have been together for seven years, engaged for going on four, we have a kid and a house together - all that&#039;s missing is making it &quot;official&quot; in the eyes of the state.  Neither of us is religious, though he comes from a large Italian religious family. 
 
We&#039;re planning on getting a self-uniting license within the next week or two. 
 
Ideally, we&#039;d just like to have my mom and his mom sign it, send it back, and be done with it.  We&#039;re planning on &quot;renewing&quot; (which would actually be doing them for the first time) our vows next summer and having a reception of sorts.  We&#039;re not even planning on exchanging rings until then. 
 
We just can&#039;t afford to do anything else right now, and his work schedule and our family schedules just don&#039;t permit a quickie JoP wedding (both of our mothers would kill us and fight over the baby if we get married and not have them and immediate family there). 
 
So I just wanted to know about the vows, rings, and such - are they necessary? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is going to sound terrible, but were the vows necessary?  I only ask because my fiance and I have been together for seven years, engaged for going on four, we have a kid and a house together &#8211; all that&#039;s missing is making it &quot;official&quot; in the eyes of the state.  Neither of us is religious, though he comes from a large Italian religious family. </p>
<p>We&#039;re planning on getting a self-uniting license within the next week or two. </p>
<p>Ideally, we&#039;d just like to have my mom and his mom sign it, send it back, and be done with it.  We&#039;re planning on &quot;renewing&quot; (which would actually be doing them for the first time) our vows next summer and having a reception of sorts.  We&#039;re not even planning on exchanging rings until then. </p>
<p>We just can&#039;t afford to do anything else right now, and his work schedule and our family schedules just don&#039;t permit a quickie JoP wedding (both of our mothers would kill us and fight over the baby if we get married and not have them and immediate family there). </p>
<p>So I just wanted to know about the vows, rings, and such &#8211; are they necessary?
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		<title>By: britany</title>
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		<dc:creator>britany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just went and joined.. still pending approval though. Hopefully I can get in and see it! :) </description>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
		<link>http://offbeatbride.com/2009/08/self-uniting-wedding/comment-page-1#comment-51166</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooh, I still had the document I used when we came up with the ceremony. I added it (along with some notes on what we did) as a Wedding Planning Update on the Offbeat Bride Tribe. Just click on my name and it should be showing up on my page by now. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh, I still had the document I used when we came up with the ceremony. I added it (along with some notes on what we did) as a Wedding Planning Update on the Offbeat Bride Tribe. Just click on my name and it should be showing up on my page by now.
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		<title>By: britany</title>
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		<dc:creator>britany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Chen Lie! I&#039;d love to hear more about your vows.. how did you do it? </description>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, everyone! </description>
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