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		<title>By: McKay&#039;s Photography</title>
		<link>http://offbeatbride.com/2008/12/negotiate-with-wedding-photographers/comment-page-1#comment-45957</link>
		<dc:creator>McKay&#039;s Photography</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved this well rounded article!  
 
The reason we photogs charge so much once we get in the business is indeed the overhead involved. And you wouldn&#039;t believe the amount of time we put into each wedding. More than the 8 hours you are booking us for, I can assure you. However, that is the biggest difference between a seasoned pro and someone just starting out. This is my FULL TIME JOB... And all that entails. That means that I am at your beck and call for more than 40 hours a week... leading up to your wedding and after. I help my customers with wedding planning and as a seasoned pro, I keep the wedding day flowing with as little stress on the couple as possible. I&#039;m great at troubleshooting. This is what comes with experience, since I&#039;ve seen it all and I&#039;ve seen worse things happen than the drama at your wedding. You don&#039;t get that from someone starting out. What it comes down to is basic... what do you value? Not every couple wants what I offer, some are more DYI. There is a photographer out there that is a perfect fit for every couple and vice versa. Find the Photographer that you can&#039;t live without and then pay them whatever they charge. We all have different financial situations and therefore different overhead.  
 
Here is my .02: 
* Most of my couples are unique, so I don&#039;t give discounts on uniqueness.  
* The only weddings I ever gave a discount on, I regretted immensely. Same for those who promised portfolio gold. If I have a great portfolio wedding... I compensate the couple after the fact in tangible ways. Like sample albums... Which I give to them when I don&#039;t use them anymore! 
*  Find the Photographer that you can&#039;t live without and then pay them whatever they charge. We all have different financial situations and therefore different overhead.  
* In this day when photo labs are closing by the dozen, I think having the photographer make your prints and album is hugely important. We know how to get archival quality that will last generations. In this one area, cheaper is not better. I worked for a photo lab for 10 years, and this is one point that I cannot repeat enough. And when will you ever get around to designing your own album?? 
 
All this being said, I reward my clients heavily. I value their hard earned money and I work twice as hard as I think I should because I am no longer in the lower price bracket. So, all I ask is you don&#039;t judge a book by it&#039;s cover (price). It could be the best money you ever spent. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved this well rounded article!  </p>
<p>The reason we photogs charge so much once we get in the business is indeed the overhead involved. And you wouldn&#039;t believe the amount of time we put into each wedding. More than the 8 hours you are booking us for, I can assure you. However, that is the biggest difference between a seasoned pro and someone just starting out. This is my FULL TIME JOB&#8230; And all that entails. That means that I am at your beck and call for more than 40 hours a week&#8230; leading up to your wedding and after. I help my customers with wedding planning and as a seasoned pro, I keep the wedding day flowing with as little stress on the couple as possible. I&#039;m great at troubleshooting. This is what comes with experience, since I&#039;ve seen it all and I&#039;ve seen worse things happen than the drama at your wedding. You don&#039;t get that from someone starting out. What it comes down to is basic&#8230; what do you value? Not every couple wants what I offer, some are more DYI. There is a photographer out there that is a perfect fit for every couple and vice versa. Find the Photographer that you can&#039;t live without and then pay them whatever they charge. We all have different financial situations and therefore different overhead.  </p>
<p>Here is my .02: </p>
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<li>Most of my couples are unique, so I don&#039;t give discounts on uniqueness.
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<li>The only weddings I ever gave a discount on, I regretted immensely. Same for those who promised portfolio gold. If I have a great portfolio wedding&#8230; I compensate the couple after the fact in tangible ways. Like sample albums&#8230; Which I give to them when I don&#039;t use them anymore!
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<li> Find the Photographer that you can&#039;t live without and then pay them whatever they charge. We all have different financial situations and therefore different overhead.
</li>
<li>In this day when photo labs are closing by the dozen, I think having the photographer make your prints and album is hugely important. We know how to get archival quality that will last generations. In this one area, cheaper is not better. I worked for a photo lab for 10 years, and this is one point that I cannot repeat enough. And when will you ever get around to designing your own album??
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<p>All this being said, I reward my clients heavily. I value their hard earned money and I work twice as hard as I think I should because I am no longer in the lower price bracket. So, all I ask is you don&#039;t judge a book by it&#039;s cover (price). It could be the best money you ever spent.</p>
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		<title>By: Bay Area Wedding Photographer, Amanda B.</title>
		<link>http://offbeatbride.com/2008/12/negotiate-with-wedding-photographers/comment-page-1#comment-42157</link>
		<dc:creator>Bay Area Wedding Photographer, Amanda B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 23:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please remember though that wedding photographer can not usually negotiate their Saturday wedding rates.    We depend on Saturday shoots to make a reasonable annual income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please remember though that wedding photographer can not usually negotiate their Saturday wedding rates.    We depend on Saturday shoots to make a reasonable annual income.</p>
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		<title>By: Marina Miller</title>
		<link>http://offbeatbride.com/2008/12/negotiate-with-wedding-photographers/comment-page-1#comment-31603</link>
		<dc:creator>Marina Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 06:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to chime in to say how realistic it is now days to barter.  

As a wedding photographer getting to know my clients, I always ask about their background.  If one of them have an interesting job that I feel I can benefit from, I will propose a bater as partial wedding services payment.  So far, I have gotten hair cuts, eyebrow waxing, tattoos, graphic design, and even a shark tour for my whole family from bartering. 

As a bride, I would share all the unique details of my day with my potential photographer.  If they feel you are going to be their &quot;dream bride&quot; they may end up offering you a free bridal or a day after session.

It never hurts to ask or offer.  Just be fair and reasonable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to chime in to say how realistic it is now days to barter.  </p>
<p>As a wedding photographer getting to know my clients, I always ask about their background.  If one of them have an interesting job that I feel I can benefit from, I will propose a bater as partial wedding services payment.  So far, I have gotten hair cuts, eyebrow waxing, tattoos, graphic design, and even a shark tour for my whole family from bartering. </p>
<p>As a bride, I would share all the unique details of my day with my potential photographer.  If they feel you are going to be their &#034;dream bride&#034; they may end up offering you a free bridal or a day after session.</p>
<p>It never hurts to ask or offer.  Just be fair and reasonable.</p>
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		<title>By: gwyneth colleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>gwyneth colleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>word.  well said, ariel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>word.  well said, ariel.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The single easiest way to cut expenses for wedding photos is to ditch the wedding book.  They can sometimes cost just as much as all the photographer&#039;s time at the wedding.  Try to get just a DVD of the images and take them to a photo lab for printing yourself.  Buying prints from the photog is often ABSURDLY expensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The single easiest way to cut expenses for wedding photos is to ditch the wedding book.  They can sometimes cost just as much as all the photographer&#039;s time at the wedding.  Try to get just a DVD of the images and take them to a photo lab for printing yourself.  Buying prints from the photog is often ABSURDLY expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Somfalvi</title>
		<link>http://offbeatbride.com/2008/12/negotiate-with-wedding-photographers/comment-page-1#comment-30105</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Somfalvi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 23:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a number of factors that &quot;wow&quot; a photographer and open the possibility of negotiation.  In no particular order:

-an usual wedding
-a location that the photographer wishes to shoot at
-a couple that is very excited about you shooting their wedding
-a couple that takes the photography seriously and makes time for photos and are open to unique ideas
-a couple that not only looks good but you can tell that they will pose well for photos

It&#039;s important for the excitement to be mutual for any photo shoot and a couple enthusiasm can certainly help soften the photographer&#039;s prices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a number of factors that &#034;wow&#034; a photographer and open the possibility of negotiation.  In no particular order:</p>
<p>-an usual wedding<br />
-a location that the photographer wishes to shoot at<br />
-a couple that is very excited about you shooting their wedding<br />
-a couple that takes the photography seriously and makes time for photos and are open to unique ideas<br />
-a couple that not only looks good but you can tell that they will pose well for photos</p>
<p>It&#039;s important for the excitement to be mutual for any photo shoot and a couple enthusiasm can certainly help soften the photographer&#039;s prices.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Alison</title>
		<link>http://offbeatbride.com/2008/12/negotiate-with-wedding-photographers/comment-page-1#comment-30089</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It definitely doesn&#039;t hurt to ask, I don&#039;t think... I have been willing to negotiate to photograph at different/interesting locations. 

As far as &quot;getting what you pay for&quot; - there is something to that, however, everyone (as in, every photographer) has to start somewhere. If you take a risk on someone new, or inexperienced, it might really BE a risk, or it might be a great deal!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It definitely doesn&#039;t hurt to ask, I don&#039;t think&#8230; I have been willing to negotiate to photograph at different/interesting locations. </p>
<p>As far as &#034;getting what you pay for&#034; &#8211; there is something to that, however, everyone (as in, every photographer) has to start somewhere. If you take a risk on someone new, or inexperienced, it might really BE a risk, or it might be a great deal!</p>
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		<title>By: Tina Ortiz</title>
		<link>http://offbeatbride.com/2008/12/negotiate-with-wedding-photographers/comment-page-1#comment-30079</link>
		<dc:creator>Tina Ortiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that I would be willing to negaotiate fees for Offbeat Brides:  I once had a groom rise from a coffin while the bride walked down in a black dress to &quot;the Corpse Bride&quot; theme!

I am always looking for photos from &quot;beyond the Goth&quot;....I love the Swing Kids theme, vampyres, Steam punk, and anything else that you normally don&#039;t get with an &quot;I do.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that I would be willing to negaotiate fees for Offbeat Brides:  I once had a groom rise from a coffin while the bride walked down in a black dress to &#034;the Corpse Bride&#034; theme!</p>
<p>I am always looking for photos from &#034;beyond the Goth&#034;&#8230;.I love the Swing Kids theme, vampyres, Steam punk, and anything else that you normally don&#039;t get with an &#034;I do.&#034;</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually posted an ad on Craigslist outlining what our wedding was and that we were on a budget. The photographer that I was in love with ended up contacting me! We&#039;re so excited!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually posted an ad on Craigslist outlining what our wedding was and that we were on a budget. The photographer that I was in love with ended up contacting me! We&#039;re so excited!</p>
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		<title>By: Lolo</title>
		<link>http://offbeatbride.com/2008/12/negotiate-with-wedding-photographers/comment-page-1#comment-30014</link>
		<dc:creator>Lolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 04:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget to look in unusual places for your photographer, too. Mine was AMAZING, just starting out in the biz but had such an incredible, artistic eye - and I found her on Craigslist. I went to her website and fell in love with her portfolio, too, and emailed her begging to be in it. I needed someone who could just pick up on what would be the best shots, not operate from a list of &quot;shot of the family, shot on the altar, blah blah.&quot; She understood that completely and was perfect, my photos are incredible, and since she&#039;s new at it, the price was super cheap! She&#039;s added my stuff to her portfolio and it&#039;s been picked up all over the internet - I&#039;m so happy for her.
Great topic, Ariel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#039;t forget to look in unusual places for your photographer, too. Mine was AMAZING, just starting out in the biz but had such an incredible, artistic eye &#8211; and I found her on Craigslist. I went to her website and fell in love with her portfolio, too, and emailed her begging to be in it. I needed someone who could just pick up on what would be the best shots, not operate from a list of &#034;shot of the family, shot on the altar, blah blah.&#034; She understood that completely and was perfect, my photos are incredible, and since she&#039;s new at it, the price was super cheap! She&#039;s added my stuff to her portfolio and it&#039;s been picked up all over the internet &#8211; I&#039;m so happy for her.<br />
Great topic, Ariel.</p>
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