No on California's Prop. 8
Posted by Ariel · Announcements

word up, girl! let's keep the love flowing…

I think it'd great that your bringing this to the forefront on here!I think that it's ridiculous to define marriage as only between a man and a woman. I agree with your family, marriage is about love and commitment and it pisses me off that many people call this the destruction of family values! I mean we should be encouraging couple who want to get married, especially in such a divorce driven. lying and cheating to our partners society. I mean isn't that more the destruction of family values and not people who want to get married. Oh I could go on for hours because I just don't understand why their religious views should dictate our constitution, I mean doesn't the constitution say EVERY American should have unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? I don't remember it saying you can't have those things if your a woman or black or arab or gay. Ok I need to take a deep breath. Moral of the story: VOTE NO ON PROP 8!!!

I just want to clarify I don't think there's anything wrong with divorce, I was just trying to point out the inconsistencies of their argument, because some of most out spoken leaders for Family Values have been lying cheating scum who have ultimately left their families for a hotter piece of ass, ok I'll shut up now.

Thank you so much Ariel for bringing this up. I live in California and was lucky enough to marry the man I love, though we will not have our wedding until next year. We did not want to run the risk that we might not be able to get legally married after November.

I really want to reiterate how important donations are. At this point in the campaign, it's all about the media buy, and that is very expensive in California.

The Mormon church has declared war on same sex marriage in California and have raised 77% of the $26.8 million being used against us in tv ads that are so deceptive and wrong. They are telling people we are going to teach gay marriage in schools and that churches are going to lose their tax exempt status if prop 8 does not pass.

We have raised $26.1 million, and we need more to counteract those lies. Please, please, please make a donation to the campaign for no on prop 8 if you can afford it and if you really feel this is important.

I just posted on same subject over at my blog, and I agree with you 100%. Infact, someone just left a comment on my blog telling me that homosexual couples cannot have happy loving homes with children who come out balanced, and used sign-stealing of pro-prop 8 signs as "proof." I had to very gently remind this person that sign-stealing is occuring on both sides, and give him a point-by-point argument why homosexual families ARE NO DIFFERENT than heterosexual ones with regards to the amount of love and caring they can give. My husband and I do not live in California but I really wish we did right now so we could vote NO!

Arizona is having the same proposal (I think it's Prop 110? Not sure) and it makes me so MAD! My sister and her partner flew to CA this past summer to be officially married even though they'd been together for at least 5 or 6 years. People should be given EQUAL rights. Not only that, but they always say separation of church and state. Um, HELLO? This is such a mix of the two it's baffling. Why must politicians be so awful to people who just want the same rights as everyone else? Grr….
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Way to go! I hope that someday I have the honor of voting for marriage equality here in PA!

i am a CA resident, born and raised, and appreciate you bringing this up.

In personal protest, my F.H. and I had decided we would only get married one day if everyone was allowed the same right to partnership.
It was such a exciting moment when the news came earlier this year that it was now legal for everyone to marry.

We decided to get engaged and now as we are planning the wedding post legalization it is now at risk. This is total b.s and impacts everyone here in CA.
I hope we put an end to this issue for once and the State of CA stop's flip-flopping back and forth. I cant imagine someone revoking our rights as I am planning my wedding now, and I truly empathize for same-sex couples.
I hope we finally make this permanent and go down in history as paving the way for the rest of the country to enact change.

For anyone in AZ they have a similar proposition as well!

Too bad we don't have an add like this on TV in AZ…. all ours say "Up hold marriage, vote yes" and they are asking voters what they will do- get this- everytime they ask a couple the man answers and the woman is silent. gr. It better not pass in AZ, but this is McCain country…

I live in AZ also, the prop here is 102, unfortunately, it is NOT going to solve the issue of gay marriage. That will still be illegal in this state, it is a little confusing, but I was going over my sample ballot a minute ago and it says voting yes on prop 102 would mean defining marriage as a union between man and woman. The rest is taken straight from my ballot, sorry, I just want AZ residents to know the whole truth, it's still not gonna change shit here, though I wish it were.

"A "no" vote will have the effect of MAINTAINING the current statutory law of the state of AZ, which PROHIBITS marriage between persons of the same sex, but would not amend the AZ Constitution to define marriage as a union between one man and one woman."

With the ads that I have seen it was my understanding that this would be a prop about passing gay marriage, so to get my sample ballot today and see it wasn't was a big time letdown. I wish I was in Cali again too so that I could vote on the issue there. Here's hoping that AZ will shoot down prop 102 and we can move on to the acceptance of same sex marriages…eventually.

Thanks, Ariel, I'm really glad I raised this subject with you - and you have listened! It is so nice to see an OBBT suggestion followed through. No to prop 8 and any other anti-love proposition! Loads of love from the UK to the no to prop 8 Californians! were rooting for you! xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

The same also holds true in CT. Same sex marriages were just made legal about 2 weeks ago. But, on the ballot for Nov 4 question 1 proposes a constitutional convention which would try to reverse the equal rights ruling. For absentee voters, on the ballot the question is under the guise of a constitutional convention to change the constitution to allow those of age to vote for president to vote in the primaries. Opening up the constitution directly for change, which many non-supporters of same sex marriages in CT want to do, would be a slap in the face for all equal rights. The question is very tricky in its wording and individuals supporting equal rights should vote NO to not open the constitution to change.

Less than two weeks left!! It's incredible that the Yes people don't care about TAKING AWAY Rights that Californians already have!

Thank you so much for bringing our struggle to everyone's attention Ariel.

Prop 102 in AZ is to define marriage as being between a man and a woman and to WRITE IT INTO THE CONSTITUTION. It was voted down in 2006 and we need to vote it down again. It's pure bigotry! No on 102!

Ok, who ordered the hetero-sexual special? so you must get the homo-sexual combo?
I may be preaching to the choir, but my point is no one chooses their sexuality and because being heterosexual is culturally accepted, many heteros HAVE NO IDEA how hard it can be to be different. religion and government have done so much to marginalize gays just for being gay that it's time those same institutions acknowledge the rights of gays to marry - after all, they allow them to adopt children !! seems to me any couple with children needs the stability and legal rights engendered with marriage - real, full-on, your-employer-cannot-deny-you-benefits, your-family-who-disagrees-cannot-intercede-in-medical-care or child custody decisions, next-of-kin, MARRIAGE.
maybe it's easier for me as I live in Massachusetts and I know that cultural pressures are much more prevalent in small-town society but Love IS Love and religion is not an excuse for hatred and/or persecution.
GOD is LOVE and any time two people are willing to commit to one another with love, it's a wonderful GOD SENT thing.
no one should be allowed to take away the rights of these families.
for those who would invoke the Bible to justify denying equality to gay couples, remember: scripture tells us "judge not, lest ye be judged".
YAY for LOVE, YAY for MARRIAGE EQUALITY!

My wife Laurie and I got married (not by the eyes of the law) this weekend in Washington state. Your post just moved me to donate the remaining funds from our wedding…..Thanks Ariel!

I'm from Oregon and few years ago there was a similar deal, prop 32 or 36, and it passed. Outside of the Portland metro area, Oregon is pretty conservative. The Oregon state constitution originally had specified marriage as being between two adults. The prop changed it to say marriage can only be between one man and one woman. It makes me especially angry when anti gay marriage folks argue that homosexuals are trying to change the heterosexuals' way of life. For a lot of states, it's the anti gay marriage advocates who are changing the laws.

I just moved to California, and there seems to be a lot more resistance to prop 8.

Vote NO on Florida Amendment 2!!!

Thank you so much for the video, I'm reposting it everywhere!

Already 2 "No on 8" votes from me and FH–we mailed our ballots in early! On a positive note, living in San Francisco, I've seen first hand how this issue has brought everyone, gay and straight, together to defeat this ridiculous proposition. Even the Governator's against it!

WTF happened to basic human rights?!? And separation of church and state?!? Take the religion out of the equation and we've got another civil rights battle on our hands.

I'm voting a big, fat NO! Let people marry whomever they choose! Keep your church crap out of my house!

My husband is very much into both Canadian and American politics, so when he told me all about Prop 8, I felt literally ill. I can't believe that the government is actually trying to reverse such a monumental decision! *insert expletives about backwoods fundamentalists here*

I know I am posting pretty late with this (I was on my honeymoon when the original post came up!!). During our honeymoon in LA
all of our hosts were gay (Chris’s uncle, all of his friends, neighbors, etc.) and Prop 8 especially hit home when we heard about Chris’ and Peter’s story. They were once married in Oregon, the first gay couple to marry in OR. In their apartment in LA they have framed the front page of their once local paper with a photo of them after they received their marriage license. The marriage certificate is also framed and hung on the same wall…. Along with a letter and a copy of a check. The letter and check were sent to them after voters in OR took back their right to marry and the check was for the expense of their license. They are now waiting to see what happens in CA on election day before they apply to be married again. Please VOTE NO ON PROP 8!!