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Diamond as dick size
Posted by Ariel · Advice

29 May 2007

My fiancé gave me an engagement ring that I absolutely love. It is a unique eco-friendly band accompanied by a nice rock which is really just icing on the cake and just that. What I really value is the artistic design of the band itself as no two designs are alike.

When I shared my new engagement ring excitement with a girlfriend, I explained to her the artistic design/eco materials' significance of the ring. She interrupted and asked what size my rock was. Upon learning that I have a 1carat diamond, she then complained to her man for not getting her a diamond of such size. She appeared to have no interest in my story of the ring design itself and was only concerned with rock sizes. How do I politely school/check other people who are obviously unappreciative of art, eco-friendly design and are more concerned with what is on top? —Rebecca

First, a slight caution: you're walking a delicate line when call attention to something (in this case a ring) and then get frustrated when people don't admire it in the ways you want. You add an extra layer of complexity when you discuss the size of the diamond you supposedly don't care about.

See, when you talk exact carats, you're getting into the dick-size game, whether you mean to or not. It's sort of like pulling down your pants and saying, "Oh that? My 10.75-inch-long penis? Ignore that — I'm trying to tell about you my scrotal piercing!" Many of us are conditioned to fixate on cock rock size, and when you provide an exact size measurement, you're not furthering your "it doesn't matter to me!" cause.

So — the next time a friend asks you how big the diamond is, if you really don't care, just shrug and say "I don't actually know." Then get back to talking abut the artistry and eco-friendliness of the design. You're not only refusing to play the numbers game, you're also making it clear that it's of oh-so little importance to you that you don't even know the exact size — which will hopefully deflate some of the consumer lust from the situation.

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riona
May 29th, 2007 · 10:24 PM · #

OMG, that's exactly what it is. I was always taken aback when people would ask me what size my diamond was, and I always said just what you suggest: I don't know. But several people – not just one – have grabbed my hand and examined my ring before pronouncing "Very nice" as if it had just passed some kind of test or something.

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Rebecca
May 30th, 2007 · 12:56 PM · #

Great feedback/advice, thank you! Next time someone asks of size, I will simply respond with, "I don't know." It's probably the safest response I can go with!

Thanks again.

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Ariel
May 30th, 2007 · 12:59 PM · #

…Or you could answer "Oh that? That's my 10.75-inch-long cock — er, I'm sorry. What were we talking about again?" That's SURE to get 'em off the subject. :)

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Kelly Mahoney
May 30th, 2007 · 7:43 PM · #

You can always walk around with a ring pop. Think about it: When someone comments on your ring, you can say "Would you like a taste?"

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navkat
May 31st, 2007 · 11:25 AM · #

Fuck engagement rings.

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B-Veiled
June 12th, 2007 · 5:07 AM · #

You know, I wondered about that kind of thing for years. I used to work in the jewelry industry and the "rule of thumb," yech, that was completely the invention of the DeBeers diamond people, is that your ring should cost 3 months' salary. But is that 3 months's salary for a brain surgeon or a high-school English teacher? Isn't that kind of relative? Does landing a surgeon entitle a woman to a bigger, more ostentatious ring than if she "settled" for someone with less earning power? That whole deal just made me cringe every time some poor dude walked into the store to check out the solitaires.

In fact, the idea of engagement rings, period, has always seemed kind of silly. First of all, after you're married an engagement ring is useless. What's it for, anyway? To mark his territory? As collateral in case he doesn't fulfill his promise? As a deposit on future affection?

The other thing that seems ponderous is how hackeneyed that particular idiom is. No matter what a designer does with the engagement ring style, it's still a diamond solitaire on some kind of band. The very worst are the 1/4 carat 4-prong mounts on thin bands that are cranked out by the hundreds and sold at Sears.

The man who buys that for his intended is telling her that his love for her is exactly like every love that has ever existed and she (and said love) are absolutely not special, unique or original at all, because if that ring is a symbol of his feelings, then that's what tha ring is saying. Props to your man for doing something original and thoughtful – I really am in support of that, and think it's great that you love him, and your ring, and I hope this all doesn't come across as too snarky.

My own ring? I didn't have one. Like I said, I think it's kind of a waste of money and there is no engagement ring style invented on earth that I wanted to wear, so I got a very expensive wedding ring instead. It's 22 karat gold, granulated, and has a custom-cut buff-top rectangular red garnet set in a high bezel box. People stop me on the street to look at it, and so far no one's asked the size, cost or carat weight involved. You just go ahead and tell people you don't know. Or get really bold and tell them it's 10 carats but it's wearing a girdle today because it's afraid of looking fat.

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Jarrett
June 14th, 2007 · 12:07 PM · #

Nice allusion.

I would like to think I didn't do badly in either department.

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annie
June 17th, 2007 · 12:42 PM · #

i told my fiance v firmly many years ago that there was room for only one ring on my hands. my wedding ring.

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Lara
June 20th, 2007 · 6:28 PM · #

It is driving me a little nuts that most of the answers on here have to do with lying. "I dont know" is a blatant lie. I prefer to say "Oh, well, that doesnt really matter to me, I am more excited about the design." My ring (yes i have a diamond ring and i LOOOOVE IT) was hand made by my mother for my grandmother when she got re-married in the late 60's. It was the first ring that my mother ever made so it is not cemetrical and i have not ever seen anything even close to it. When my lovely lady (if she is looking i mean my rough tough butch) told my mother that she was going to ask me to marry her my mother gave it to her. long story short she wanted there to be something new mixed in with the old so she had some work done on it and bought a raher large diamond (wholesale from an old dealer my father knew) to put in it. When someone asks me about the weight i either tell them and then get back to the story or i dont tell them and get back to the story. I decide what is important about my ring. There is no need to lie.

Holy shit, that was really snarky. sorry. I am just easily excited :o \

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Shina
July 10th, 2007 · 8:03 AM · #

Seeing as how there are no diamonds that are actually eco-friendly…I went for the Herkimer diamond which is a very clear quartz crystal. It keeps you out of the c/rock size game and focuses on the ecofriendliness. Personally, I think you're a little more infatuated with the carat size than you're leading on to be.

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Jen
July 18th, 2007 · 10:56 AM · #

Strange, it's kinda like a reverse pissing contest here. My ring is more eco-friendly, non traditional, cost less…. Your still playing the same game as the girls with the big rocks!

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Matthia
July 19th, 2007 · 5:47 PM · #

see, i'm kind of like a magpie and am attracted to anything sparkly and therefore looooove my ring. However, I did get my fiance one…I never really thought it was fair that I got a rock and he didn't.

I haven't actually had anyone ask me for my measurements yet, but I think I would also go with the whole "I don't know" thing…I mean, it's a little rude right? It's like asking what if cost. I don't go around asking people how much their earrings cost…

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kate the great
July 22nd, 2007 · 12:01 PM · #

My ring is an antique European solitaire from the 1930s. The diamond is a quarter carat, and the band is pink gold. We got it at an estate jeweler. When people see it, they most often call it "cute" and seem to think it's rather sad that I couldn't afford a better ring.

That's never made any sense to me. My ring has history. It isn't ostentatious. It cost $500, which we pooled our money to afford. To me, it's perfect.

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Karen
August 6th, 2007 · 9:09 PM · #

My ring is, as said above, a 1/4 ct., 4-prongs, on a thin band, regular engagement ring. At about $300, it was what we could afford, and I love it.

Surprisingly, the only person who's asked the size was the lady at the "showroom" when she was taking my resizing order. I thought the general population would be a lot ruder than that, although I will concede to getting a couple of "cutes". But fuck 'em, if they want me to have a bigger/better ring, they should have contributed if they care so much.

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tammy
September 2nd, 2007 · 7:39 PM · #

I actually don't know anything about diamonds, so if I say "I don't know" it's completely honest.

Actually, I've made it perfectly clear that I don't want a diamond. I don't even know if I want a stone in mine. I do want a ring, but it doesn't have to have a stone in it for me to be happy. I suppose if it doesn't have a stone I won't get anyone asking what size it is…but I'm sure I'll get the "you poor thing" comment.
Because Omigod, every woman wants a big-ass diamond! /sarcasm

o)
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Kristina
October 12th, 2007 · 2:32 PM · #

What I don't understand is some of the judgment associated with it. If people choose not to have an engagement ring, more power to them, but why does it make you less of a person to value tradition? Or, to just want an excuse to buy someone you love something sparkley to commemorate the moment when you asked them to be your partner in life. If it's not for you, then great, but why say others are less for liking it?

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Gertie
December 11th, 2007 · 10:05 AM · #

hehe…some traditions/expectations are whack! My Grandma still uses the phrase, "She got her diamond" when someone gets engaged! GAG!! (unless she secretly means 'she found her one-in-a-million-lifemate' ~doubtful!)
Anyhoo…love my Grandma, but some things are ingrained, i guess!

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Lana
December 19th, 2007 · 7:32 PM · #

Hey Tammy…I decided that I wanted NO diamond, no stone whatsoever…and I get hella compliments on my heavy-duty wide hammered gold band all the time. It's my engagement ring, soon to be called "my wedding ring". Same ring, yo.

There have been a couple of rude comments such as "that's not an engagement ring, where's the diamond?" but for the most part people (especially men) have loved it. Women have been most likely to wrinkle the nose, but whatever. It's not their ring, it's mine.

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farfelue
December 21st, 2007 · 11:05 PM · #

kheh I proposed to my dear, so he gets to wear a ring (an eccentric double-ring I picked up at a mom and pop store). He loves it too. I'm just waiting for the 'real' ring. They'll be simple silver bands.

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ange
January 15th, 2008 · 2:49 PM · #

I have had similar experiences. Some people ask about the 4Cs. I don't know. I don't care.

"But let me tell you about the history…" Some people are interested and some aren't. Again, I don't care.

I have been caught staring at my ring a few times. I will admit to it, but it has nothing to do with the size or stone. I am really excited about what the ring symbolizes.

I am so freaking giddy that we are getting married! (I never thought I would be so excited about a wedding)

86 the bows and matching dresses, please!

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eliza
January 22nd, 2008 · 8:26 PM · #

i love that you totally called that girl out on her veiled excuse for bragging about her carat size. a little self-awareness, pls brides!

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Kit
July 18th, 2008 · 8:33 PM · #

I don't love how you called that bride out. It's not like 1carat is bragging rights anyway. She knows how big it is and that's no surprise; most indie brides at least help pick their rings. I'm also not big on just plain lying. Brushing it off by saying you don't care, fine, and if talking to people you don't give a crap about, go ahead and lie, but just because it's not particularly relevant doesn't mean you're not going to know. H3ll, knowing diamond sizing could just be a result of understanding how to make jewelry, like my dad. And as for no diamonds being ecofriendly, it's true, that's not complete bull. They have to be harvested somehow. But Canadian diamonds, for example, do an excellent job caring for the environment when removing their rocks. You can get extra eco-cred for choosing not to dig up pieces of the earth, but don't pretend like you're a goddess because you did what you wanted.

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Ryan
August 2nd, 2008 · 11:12 PM · #

Wow, it's pretty much just straight up douchey to say something to the effect of if your fiancee buys you a ring from a mainstream jeweler, he thinks you're just like everyone else and his love for you is nothing special.
I understand the objection to this obsession over karats and the feeling that a traditional engagement ring is an absolute necessity. But passing so much judgment on the subject and making assumptions about someone's feelings or character based on an OBJECT is just as shallow and materialistic as declaring anything less than a 2 karat ring from Tiffany's unacceptable.
It's jewelry, guys. Nothing more.

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Sara
October 16th, 2008 · 11:36 PM · #

My ring isn’t very special visually…other than it has a wanna-be black hills gold look to it..and it’s no longer a diamond in the center. It still has diamonds, just like teeny ones.
It is one of those mass produced gold and diamond rings sold in a department store or a –Mart store. I don’t know which. See, my Dad bought this ring for my mom. This was their wedding and engagement ring. It was welded together shortly after the wedding. My dad paid about $300 for it in the late eighties.
My parents divorced after 7 years. Then, my dad died when I was 14. My mom did drugs (she’s clean now). She pawned her ring at some point. My grandmother bought the ring out of pawn and had a ruby put in it, as it was now her ring and she had always wanted a birthstone ring.
When I got the ring, my grandma handed it to me, not my husband, and I had to wear it on my pinky until we could find an affordable place to get it resized. It was four sizes too small.
People rarely comment on it, and when they do they are obviously under-impressed. And I feel crappy about it. I feel like I should have a better ring… Then I remember that this ring is a family heirloom. It tells the story about the love my parents shared and the love my grandmother has for her daughter and grandchildren (the first to marry would get their pick of my mom’s 2 wedding rings), and finally, of the love my husband and I share. Not to mention that I miss my father terribly and this was a nice way to include him in our wedding (and marriage).
My ring has a lot of history. In fact, it could be a rather depressing reminder of all the shit my life has been. However, I love my ring because of the all that shit, and because I never thought that I’d be blessed enough to be in love.

MORAL OF THE STORY: The best way I have heard wedding rings described is something to the effect of the rings are a symbol of the commitment made between two people as they get married. The rings aren’t the commitment; they are simply the outward sign of what has occurred.

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Christie
November 25th, 2008 · 5:01 PM · #

My "engagement ring" is actually my promise ring. We've been together for 4 years and for our one year anniversary when we had more money to toss around he got me a promise ring 14k and .2 kt diamond ring, he proposed to me in a bar and i am not emabarassed or ashamed to tell ppl we re-used my promise ring cuz the ring doenst matter. Altho i will be honest and say that i love having a ring with a diamond, i am crow/magpie like and like the shiny things too! *blushes*

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Tamara
February 2nd, 2009 · 7:01 PM · #

I've been asked a couple of times, and have been able to respond in complete honesty "I don't know and I don't care, it's exactly the style I like best and he picked it without my knowing!"

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Lisa
February 22nd, 2009 · 5:34 PM · #

hmm. interesting thread of comments. I have a blue opal- and most of the time people don't recognize that it's an engagement ring even though it's on the right finger (i actually had to ask around about that one. Haha! had no idea!). I actually had the lady at the wedding dress boutique say: "Oh hey! your mood changed- it's blue now!". LOL, I had to inform the BRIDAL boutique lady that no, in fact it's not a mood ring but my engagement ring… haha. It is very interesting that this topic of ring/competition has sparked a lot of debate.
I also am not a fan of lying. But I do believe that LOVE is the most important part to a ring/no ring/bracelet/necklace/symbol.
That and Canadian diamonds are AWESOME. :)

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Allie
February 22nd, 2009 · 10:39 PM · #

when my boyfriend (now fiance) told me he was likely to propose but couldnt afford a nice diamond I told him to get a fake, and just dont tell anyone. He was shocked at the idea, as his rule with buying jewelery is to buy the best, no fakes, no low quality. I showed him http://www.carat.cc and got what looks like a 2 carat diamond flanked by 1 carat stones. really, its all fake.

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CelticCatEyes
February 26th, 2009 · 12:58 AM · #

While there are definitley brides who put too much importance on carat size, I also think its okay to be excited to share your engagement ring because of what it means to you and your partner.

My great grandparents gave my fiance a family ring with which to propose to me. My great grandmother actually knew very little about her mother's ring, and tracking down its history was so much fun. As students, we couldn't afford any ring, so it is priceless in our eyes.

On another note, another bride I know had her diamonds lab created to coincide with her beliefs, and she stands by those beliefs when others (including her grandmother) try to tell her her rings are not real. Not sure what they mean, its right there on her finger ;D

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just me
March 15th, 2009 · 10:34 AM · #

Canadian diamonds aren't all that great. The diamond companies are currently getting permission to dump all their toxic crud into living lakes up north. Lakes that won't be living for much longer after that.

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Jx
March 16th, 2009 · 6:29 AM · #

a guy in my office gave his fiance a 1 carat diamond ring and another girl in her office gave her e-ring back to her fiance and told him he had to get a bigger one!
I have never wanted a diamond ring (I like emeralds) and I didn't have an engagement ring, or a proposal exactly….yet we are about to celebrate our 25th wedding anniversary.
because my groom still hadnt bought a ring the afternoon before the wedding, his mom offered him her grandmother's wedding band because "nobody else wants it".
the guy has felt so guilty for not buying me a diamond, that this past Christmas, he gave me a gold band with 10 small diamonds in it – it sparkles, it's beautiful, but I can't help but feel awful about the guilt he felt for not giving me a diamond. E-ring, no E-ring, do what works for YOU, but dont make other people feel awful for not doing what works for YOU.

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Jx
March 16th, 2009 · 6:31 AM · #

AND I love the rock size = cock size analogy!

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Enrique
March 18th, 2009 · 11:07 AM · #

I had my fiance's ring custom made- and used a ruby instead of a diamond. Its an engagement/wedding band set- the bands are wavy and either fit together or (if turned) just look cool juxtaposed together. Its unique, its beautiful, its more moral than a diamond ring from debeers, she loves it…(heres a picutre http://www.etsy.com/view_transaction.php?transaction_id=9289843)

But after giving the ring…I feel guilty that the ruby is too small. What the hell.

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Genevieve
March 20th, 2009 · 1:59 AM · #

My baby gave me his great grandfathers cross to wear till out wedding day. Its handmade from silver and has a tiny little topaz in it. I do wear a silver ring with some CZ in it but thats just to satisfy my desire to wear a ring until we elope, well if we ever get $40 we need for the stupid license

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Lula
March 20th, 2009 · 10:15 AM · #

I like Sara's story. Sounds like a lovely ring, Sara, no matter what it looks like.

My SIL's ring was peridot and sterling silver, and she wears it now on her right hand; $35 was all my brother could afford. Their wedding bands are also silver. My mother never had one at all (they could afford one now but she doesn't care about it), and her wedding band was made of 12k dental gold by my uncle!

I used to work in an office full of young women and engagement rings were definitely a pissing contest. Solitaires were no longer good enough; they were shooting for three-stones. One girl had one picked out that cost $4500, never mind that neither she nor her fiancé had "career" jobs or any savings. It bordered on delusional.

I'm not [very] opposed to engagement rings, but there's no way I'd let a guy spend 1/3 of a new car on one for me. Yeah, I'd be excited about the engagement, but not so much the ring.

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Naye
April 7th, 2009 · 12:07 PM · #

I agree with the comments about this being a "reversed pissing contest".

I love my ring and I make no apologies about what my fiance could or could not afford. To some it may be extravagant, and to others modest, but it's on my god damn finger and that's all that matters.

I also have no qualms about sharing carat size, no matter what the intention of the question. I'm proud of my ring, simple as that.

The best advice I received is to meet snarkiness with snarkiness. Guaranteed to piss most people off…… or at very least shut them the hell up. Don't apologize for what you love!!

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Nathalie
May 3rd, 2009 · 7:45 PM · #

My goodness there are a few pointed comments here.
I don't think having/not having a ring/diamond is a big deal, but I have been feeling pretty crappy because of how other people treat it. "How many carats" and people talking about how big theirs are. I loved my ring dearly when I first got it. In fact, it was exactly what I wanted, except with real diamonds instead of fake (I didn't have the heart to ask him to exchange it). But women AND MEN make me feel self conscious about it, and that's what really upsets me. Why can't I just like what I like, and that be the end of it? Why does everything have to be all about appearances and socially approved "beauty." Why the hell is bigger better anyway? It just gets in the way. *sigh*

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Angela
August 17th, 2009 · 3:17 AM · #

Fuck them? With a 10.75-inch cock, perhaps?

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Aleisha
October 1st, 2009 · 4:16 AM · #

Huh. I've been engaged for about 4 months now, and I can honestly say that only one person has ever inquired about the size of my diamond – my friend's boyfriend (now fiance). Turns out his question was more research-based than personal! Ha! The rest of my friends and family members have almost unanimously responded with – that's SO "you". Really, that's the best compliment I could receive.

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thestik
October 1st, 2009 · 8:30 AM · #

Heh. I avoided the ring drama altogether and proposed to my fiance with a watch. Later on, I bought myself a similar styled watch, so we have our engagement watches. I tell people that I'm engaged but never get asked about my ring. Then again, I usually start off with "I propsed to him.", so I guess the ring becomes an afterthought when they hear I turned tradition on its head. And since I'm only going to have one ring, I'll be getting a band with diamonds and sapphires (mostly likely from Brilliant Earth).

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caroline
October 20th, 2009 · 4:15 PM · #

I actually only have ever had one rude comment on my rings (generally if other people even notice it, they say "oh how pretty", like a normal person would).

It was actually a friend of my husband's. He asked to see my ring, then turned to the husband and said "You didn't get her a diamond?" I mean…. really, who says that? I have had a few people ask why he picked Tanzanite (it it your birthstone, etc. etc.), which I think falls under reasonable questions (he happened to like the color, actually). But anything that's effectively asking "how much did you pay for that thing?" is just a ridiculous thing to ask.

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EleChic
October 20th, 2009 · 5:15 PM · #

So I'm planning on proposing to my guy over Halloween wknd while I'm visiting him in Canada. We were previously engaged but this time is for good (long story) It's only fair that I propose this time right? I mean he did it last time. But is it weird that I LOVE my wedding band (it's from Circa1930s, I love antique things) from last time and sort of just want to use that instead of an engagment ring and then at some point have my diamond set (antique 3/4carat fancy canary 90yrold that I inherited)? Actually my ring of choice if I didn't already have a diamond would be from Green Karat, the First Fig ring but I can't justify spending extra money when we have immigration costs to contend with. Well I guess the fact that I'm saying this outloud probably means I'm decided already but feedback is always good! I'm just soooo excited! : )

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Morgan
October 22nd, 2009 · 12:38 PM · #

I wear a bigger diamond than most people I know – the ring belonged to my boyfriend's godmother, who had extravagant taste in jewelry. They were very close, and before she passed away a few years ago, she insisted he take the ring for his future bride.

It made me a little self conscious at first, something so big and sparkly, but once I got used to it, it was fine. When anyone says anything about it, I simply explain that it belonged to a beloved godmother, and everyone focuses on that instead.

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Clarrie
November 3rd, 2009 · 10:12 PM · #

We chose a gold and diamond engagement ring (or titanium and diamond in my partner's case) because while it wasn't that important to us, we found that we really liked the idea of being the godmother in Morgan's story and passing the ring on to a future godchild/child/grandchild/etc to use.
We wouldn't have spent as much just on ourselves, but really liked the thought that it would be something that a future generation could keep and use in its own right, or sell and have enough money to serve a useful purpose.

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