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		<title>By: Jessica Kornberg</title>
		<link>http://offbeatbride.com/2006/12/advice-dealing-with-expectations/comment-page-1#comment-142713</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica Kornberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 00:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pressure for dude and I both is getting more intense as things creep up.  We&#039;re both the oldest grandchildren--on my side, everyone else who has gotten married has eloped or did a quickie &#039;shotgun&#039; wedding and for dude, he&#039;s the first to even bring a person home for the holidays.  

It&#039;s not that we have pressure to stick to tradition or to be more offbeat (yet), we just have so many people who are SO STOKED to FINALLY be able to do things that they&#039;ve always wanted and expected to be able to do--so juggling all of those dearly held expectations is getting more and more a part of this process.

Like PPs have said, my dad is also hell bent on walking me down the aisle.  I wasn&#039;t feeling that too much until I remembered that it&#039;s a Jewish tradition for both parents to walk the bride down the aisle.  This sits better with me as with both parents there, there is no implication of me being given away.  But I&#039;ve nixed the father/daughter dance and he&#039;s dealing with that.  We&#039;ll dance at some point, just not as an event.  My grandmother would cry if she did not have a corsage--I was not planning on any corsages and now we have to have 5 of them or Grandma will cry.  How can I argue with that?  So instead, I sigh and add more money to the feather lady&#039;s bill and it&#039;s done so I can do fun things like homework and house cleaning.

I try to remember to pick my battles--I&#039;m not going to fight over something just so I have control over it.  I will reserve my energy and verbal melee skills for the things that really matter, and the other things, I will do my best to work for a solution that makes everyone happy.  If I can afford to throw money at something to make it go away, I will.  If I can&#039;t, I&#039;ll figure it out.  I see so many people picking one extreme like trying to make everyone happy or the other extreme like refusing to budge one little bit, even over something small.  I try to avoid that because I&#039;ve never seen an extreme behavior strategy work effectively.  We try to keep the things that we determined were important to us to the forefront and let the little things that may or may not matter to us or others work themselves out.  It&#039;s hard but it&#039;s all about balance and thinking about something before responding/emoting about it.  No one&#039;s perfect, my dad and I totally fought like cats and dogs over the aisle nonsense but it obviously ended up ok.  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pressure for dude and I both is getting more intense as things creep up.  We&#039;re both the oldest grandchildren&#8211;on my side, everyone else who has gotten married has eloped or did a quickie &#039;shotgun&#039; wedding and for dude, he&#039;s the first to even bring a person home for the holidays.  </p>
<p>It&#039;s not that we have pressure to stick to tradition or to be more offbeat (yet), we just have so many people who are SO STOKED to FINALLY be able to do things that they&#039;ve always wanted and expected to be able to do&#8211;so juggling all of those dearly held expectations is getting more and more a part of this process.</p>
<p>Like PPs have said, my dad is also hell bent on walking me down the aisle.  I wasn&#039;t feeling that too much until I remembered that it&#039;s a Jewish tradition for both parents to walk the bride down the aisle.  This sits better with me as with both parents there, there is no implication of me being given away.  But I&#039;ve nixed the father/daughter dance and he&#039;s dealing with that.  We&#039;ll dance at some point, just not as an event.  My grandmother would cry if she did not have a corsage&#8211;I was not planning on any corsages and now we have to have 5 of them or Grandma will cry.  How can I argue with that?  So instead, I sigh and add more money to the feather lady&#039;s bill and it&#039;s done so I can do fun things like homework and house cleaning.</p>
<p>I try to remember to pick my battles&#8211;I&#039;m not going to fight over something just so I have control over it.  I will reserve my energy and verbal melee skills for the things that really matter, and the other things, I will do my best to work for a solution that makes everyone happy.  If I can afford to throw money at something to make it go away, I will.  If I can&#039;t, I&#039;ll figure it out.  I see so many people picking one extreme like trying to make everyone happy or the other extreme like refusing to budge one little bit, even over something small.  I try to avoid that because I&#039;ve never seen an extreme behavior strategy work effectively.  We try to keep the things that we determined were important to us to the forefront and let the little things that may or may not matter to us or others work themselves out.  It&#039;s hard but it&#039;s all about balance and thinking about something before responding/emoting about it.  No one&#039;s perfect, my dad and I totally fought like cats and dogs over the aisle nonsense but it obviously ended up ok.  <img src='http://media.offbeatbride.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
		<link>http://offbeatbride.com/2006/12/advice-dealing-with-expectations/comment-page-1#comment-142540</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really get any expectations from many people, my side of the family doesn&#039;t really care, they aren&#039;t very vocal, but I know that during the wedding they&#039;ll be analyzing everything and tell me what I should have done differently afterwards, which makes me super nervous.  My FMIL has the most expectations, her daughters both kind of eloped without her, my FH is her last shot to see her children get married.  I&#039;ve had to decide not to tell anyone what shoes I&#039;ll be wearing for the wedding though&#8230;.because I know someone will say something and it will break my spirit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t really get any expectations from many people, my side of the family doesn&#039;t really care, they aren&#039;t very vocal, but I know that during the wedding they&#039;ll be analyzing everything and tell me what I should have done differently afterwards, which makes me super nervous.  My FMIL has the most expectations, her daughters both kind of eloped without her, my FH is her last shot to see her children get married.  I&#039;ve had to decide not to tell anyone what shoes I&#039;ll be wearing for the wedding though&hellip;.because I know someone will say something and it will break my spirit.
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 23:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its been so hard to talk to my mom about my wedding and I&#039;m only recently engaged! she&#039;s so traditional and so is everyone else on her side! everything from leaving my hair short to getting matching tats is a huge battle &gt;.&lt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its been so hard to talk to my mom about my wedding and I&#039;m only recently engaged! she&#039;s so traditional and so is everyone else on her side! everything from leaving my hair short to getting matching tats is a huge battle &gt;.&lt;
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 21:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to set expectations those first few months and it&#039;s rough. I had a very supportive maid of honor who I started bouncing ideas off of, instead of my mom, because every time I would tell her something she would be negative, or worse, pout because it wasn&#039;t what she thought we should do.

After it was all said and done, we survived the blow ups, the wedding was a success, we included what we wanted, left out what we didn&#039;t, and we can look back on it fondly. 

We are able to do so because I set boundaries about how involved in the decision making process my mom was. We didn&#039;t do wedding dress shopping, she didn&#039;t go to the cake tastings, and I created my own invitations that didn&#039;t mention my parents. It helped that I wasn&#039;t taking money from her for the wedding, since that really makes things complicated!

It may sound cruel to have cut her out of so many traditionally mom and daughter wedding things, but we never would have made it without killing each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to set expectations those first few months and it&#039;s rough. I had a very supportive maid of honor who I started bouncing ideas off of, instead of my mom, because every time I would tell her something she would be negative, or worse, pout because it wasn&#039;t what she thought we should do.</p>
<p>After it was all said and done, we survived the blow ups, the wedding was a success, we included what we wanted, left out what we didn&#039;t, and we can look back on it fondly. </p>
<p>We are able to do so because I set boundaries about how involved in the decision making process my mom was. We didn&#039;t do wedding dress shopping, she didn&#039;t go to the cake tastings, and I created my own invitations that didn&#039;t mention my parents. It helped that I wasn&#039;t taking money from her for the wedding, since that really makes things complicated!</p>
<p>It may sound cruel to have cut her out of so many traditionally mom and daughter wedding things, but we never would have made it without killing each other.
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		<title>By: Sara C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 20:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say from our engagement the initial period (i.e. 2-3 months) was pretty rocky, and there was a lull until really the last 2-3 months (we&#039;re 6 weeks out from the wedding).  Our newest clash?  We are talking with a female minister.  My dad, of course, does not believe females can be ministers and ergo we wouldn&#039;t actually be married. Which only make me want to choose the female more&#8230;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say from our engagement the initial period (i.e. 2-3 months) was pretty rocky, and there was a lull until really the last 2-3 months (we&#039;re 6 weeks out from the wedding).  Our newest clash?  We are talking with a female minister.  My dad, of course, does not believe females can be ministers and ergo we wouldn&#039;t actually be married. Which only make me want to choose the female more&hellip;
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 20:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m interested in hearing the responses on this one. 

I feel this huge pressure to be the bride that my mom &quot;couldn&#039;t have afforded to be&quot; when she got married, even though that&#039;s not what I want. We&#039;re super early in our engagement, and there have been no fewer than 5 blowups already due to expectations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m interested in hearing the responses on this one. </p>
<p>I feel this huge pressure to be the bride that my mom &#034;couldn&#039;t have afforded to be&#034; when she got married, even though that&#039;s not what I want. We&#039;re super early in our engagement, and there have been no fewer than 5 blowups already due to expectations.
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		<title>By: Andrea M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 16:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not nearly offbeat enough for my mom&#039;s taste.  I&#039;m totally ok with that though since I have no desire to be as mental as my mom.  She&#039;s all hippie-trippy, I&#039;m a new ro/nerd, nary the two shall ever see eye to eye.  She&#039;s pretty used to me telling her no and I&#039;m very comfortable doing it just because it&#039;s been this way for 20 some years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m not nearly offbeat enough for my mom&#039;s taste.  I&#039;m totally ok with that though since I have no desire to be as mental as my mom.  She&#039;s all hippie-trippy, I&#039;m a new ro/nerd, nary the two shall ever see eye to eye.  She&#039;s pretty used to me telling her no and I&#039;m very comfortable doing it just because it&#039;s been this way for 20 some years.
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		<title>By: bellerouge</title>
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		<dc:creator>bellerouge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 16:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think people revert to tradition because they like knowing what to expect, and more specifically, what they are being asked to do.

My FH and I are at odds over having one or more friends serve in the the &quot;master of ceremonies&quot;/officiant role for our non-religious ceremony. (We&#039;re doing the legal ceremony beforehand, with no guests present, at a city hall.) He thinks we should just appear in front of everyone and say our vows.  I would like a little more direction--that&#039;s why I like the idea of one or more friends in official roles, explaining what&#039;s going on, guiding everyone on what to do.  We may be offbeat, but not all of our family and friends are.

So we have somethings to work out between us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people revert to tradition because they like knowing what to expect, and more specifically, what they are being asked to do.</p>
<p>My FH and I are at odds over having one or more friends serve in the the &#034;master of ceremonies&#034;/officiant role for our non-religious ceremony. (We&#039;re doing the legal ceremony beforehand, with no guests present, at a city hall.) He thinks we should just appear in front of everyone and say our vows.  I would like a little more direction&#8211;that&#039;s why I like the idea of one or more friends in official roles, explaining what&#039;s going on, guiding everyone on what to do.  We may be offbeat, but not all of our family and friends are.</p>
<p>So we have somethings to work out between us.
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		<title>By: Sara C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 18:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the idea of the rose exchange!  I think my mom is more wanting it than either of us; it&#039;s not something my dad and I have talked about a lot.  But then again, we don&#039;t talk a lot about anything unrelated to fishing or basketball (my dad&#039;s two hobbies).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea of the rose exchange!  I think my mom is more wanting it than either of us; it&#039;s not something my dad and I have talked about a lot.  But then again, we don&#039;t talk a lot about anything unrelated to fishing or basketball (my dad&#039;s two hobbies).
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 17:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is he the one agitating to walk you down the aisle?

My dad was totally fine with my idea, which was to walk down the aisle by myself. (My husband also walked down by himself, so there was that bit of egalitarianism going on.) The way we incorporated the parents during the ceremony was like this: husband and I first did a rose exchange with each other, and then we each presented a rose to the other&#039;s parents to acknowledge and thank them. The minister also asked each set of parents to pledge their support with a &quot;we will.&quot; There was no giving away of anybody  :) Maybe something like that would work for you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is he the one agitating to walk you down the aisle?</p>
<p>My dad was totally fine with my idea, which was to walk down the aisle by myself. (My husband also walked down by himself, so there was that bit of egalitarianism going on.) The way we incorporated the parents during the ceremony was like this: husband and I first did a rose exchange with each other, and then we each presented a rose to the other&#039;s parents to acknowledge and thank them. The minister also asked each set of parents to pledge their support with a &#034;we will.&#034; There was no giving away of anybody  <img src='http://media.offbeatbride.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Maybe something like that would work for you?
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